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electricflyer
06-14-2016, 12:39 PM
Why cant the people that put together the screwdriver packages put more Phillips Head screw driver in the mix. I have bought several screwdriver sets from Harbor Freight and they have one Phillips Head screwdriver in them and 8 flat blade screwdrivers. Who uses a slotted screw anymore? I'll bet I have 70 flat blade screwdrivers in my tool cabinet and I'm lucky if I can find one Phillips Head screwdriver. I know I have one in the TT but that one stays there. Why can't they put together a set of all Phillips Head screwdrivers. It really upsets me!!
I know, you say go to Home Depot or Lowes or Menards and just buy a Philips Head screwdriver. Not! It's the principle of the thing about screwdriver sets.
Flyer, I think you ought to go to the cops and complain about those people holding a pistol to your head, forcing you to buy that screwdriver set. By Jingo, you should have had a choice to buy it or not.
It just ain't right.
Radio
06-14-2016, 06:21 PM
I guess it is about where you get your tools.
I have a Ryobi bit kit that's about 10 years old now, there's strange bits in there I have never gotten around to using, and plenty of Philips and those things that look like Philips that aren't, really.
I have on occasion bought screwdriver sets from Sears, Home Depot and Lowes, and all came with at least 4 different Philips screwdrivers.
But I don't bash Harbor Freight. It is what it is and I'm careful in there. In fact I need to stop in there and get a large moving blanket so we can take Sweet Wife's bicycle on a camping trip in the next few weeks. We carry it inside the trailer.
Check U-Haul for moving blankets, too. Carefully compare the quality and prices; I dunno which is better nowadays since I haven't bought moving blankets in a long time.
... those things that look like Philips that aren't ...
Most likely Reed & Prince, AKA Frearson.
N3LYT
06-14-2016, 07:11 PM
If you own a RV you might invest in some Roberson screw drivers.
Radio
06-14-2016, 07:17 PM
If you own a RV you might invest in some Roberson screw drivers.
I have some of those, in my Ryobi bit kit and in the screwdriver set I got at Lowes. And owning an RV, they get used from time to time. :whistle:
Ja, I had to buy Roberson stuff when I bought the DP. A little hard to find; wish they had used Torx instead, of which I have several sets, or at least Phillips.
wa8yxm
06-15-2016, 12:58 PM
I will answer one question you ask for you
Who Uses slotted screws anymore?
I do
Radio
06-15-2016, 06:00 PM
I will answer one question you ask for you
Who Uses slotted screws anymore?
I do
Me too, occasionally I need to pry on something. :whistle:
N3LYT
06-15-2016, 07:25 PM
If you do electrical work you will also need Roberson drivers. Big box stores have them in the electrical section.
If you do electrical work you will also need Roberson drivers. Big box stores have them in the electrical section.
I do all my own electrical work, and have been doing it for longer than a half-century -- but never once have I needed a Robertson driver when doing electrical work. I just learned (via Google, when I was checking what I thought I knew) that it's Robertson, not Roberson.
Maybe it's different way up in the cold and frozen North where people have the numeral 3 in their callsigns. Robertson drivers were originally a Canadian phenomenon that stealthily invaded our Glorious Nation -- from the Northward regions, of course.
N3LYT
06-16-2016, 08:40 AM
They came first about 16 years latter they came up with the Phillip’s drivers and have been changing it ever since because they slipped with powered drivers that's why you still see them in things like RV's and Kerg tools, and deck screws. The screw on a romex connector looks like a Phillips but it's not it is a Robertson and a slot the same with breakers and grounding lugs they do not slip out of the driver slot. Ever installed outlets with a flat driver because a Phillips slips? Try a #1 Robertson next time. Over the years they tried all kinds of screw drive slots the only ones that have endured unchanged are the Robertson's As you have seen from my call I'm from the south so I have used both types of drivers but my electrical tool bag has Robertson drivers because they work and I can use them on my camper!
N3LYT
06-16-2016, 08:49 AM
Why cant the people that put together the screwdriver packages put more Phillips Head screw driver in the mix. I have bought several screwdriver sets from Harbor Freight and they have one Phillips Head screwdriver in them and 8 flat blade screwdrivers. Who uses a slotted screw anymore? I'll bet I have 70 flat blade screwdrivers in my tool cabinet and I'm lucky if I can find one Phillips Head screwdriver. I know I have one in the TT but that one stays there. Why can't they put together a set of all Phillips Head screwdrivers. It really upsets me!!
I know, you say go to Home Depot or Lowes or Menards and just buy a Philips Head screwdriver. Not! It's the principle of the thing about screwdriver sets.
Many many years ago I was making a wooden "Z" door with slotted screws a carpenter friend was watching and he said that's not the way to do that, "OK show me" he walked over and pounded them in with a hammer! Doors still up. Now that is the way to drive slotted screws.
An old friend, long ago, with whom I used to rebuild Ford Y-blocks, always said Never use force. Instead, get a bigger hammer.
Radio
06-16-2016, 06:25 PM
What do you get when you mix vodka and milk of magnesia?
Wait for it.....
A Phillips Screwdriver! :giggle:
N3LYT
06-16-2016, 06:36 PM
That does not sound like a drink I would like to try!
electricflyer
06-16-2016, 07:50 PM
Many many years ago I was making a wooden "Z" door with slotted screws a carpenter friend was watching and he said that's not the way to do that, "OK show me" he walked over and pounded them in with a hammer! Doors still up. Now that is the way to drive slotted screws.
Likewise many years ago when my parents were building a new house my father hired a carpenter to help with the building. That old guy set every screw with a hammer. He told me the slot was there to take the screw out not put it in.
He told me the slot was there to take the screw out not put it in.
I don't think that would work very well on a Ford Y-block. :whistle: To adjust the valves, you need a 9/16 wrench and a big slotted-screw screwdriver.
wa8yxm
06-17-2016, 08:18 AM
These days may scrws are "Multi-Driver" that is they have the standard slot, but also a "V" cut at right angles so they can take a phillips.. They work much better with a flat bit than a phillips.. (though the phillips is easier to start with.
I'm getting to like square head and torex better... Torex are amazing.
N3LYT
06-17-2016, 04:31 PM
These days may scrws are "Multi-Driver" that is they have the standard slot, but also a "V" cut at right angles so they can take a phillips.. They work much better with a flat bit than a phillips.. (though the phillips is easier to start with.
I'm getting to like square head and torex better... Torex are amazing.
Torex are cool just a modern Robertson. I bought a special screw the other day and returned it I had nothing that fit it I read the tag when I got home it said "bit not included" well the damn thing is a "star drive" nothing I owned fit it I brought home new screws that were torex.
We're making up for omitting the T from Robertson (I left it out too) by adding an extra E to Torx. Cool. That's as good as leaving one L out of Phillips. Gotta protect our perfect record.
N3LYT
06-18-2016, 08:45 AM
We're making up for omitting the T from Robertson (I left it out too) by adding an extra E to Torx. Cool. That's as good as leaving one L out of Phillips. Gotta protect our perfect record.
Ah yes there's an English major in every crowd! I never could spell never will be able to I'm dyslexic as they come and proud of it!
Ah yes there's an English major in every crowd!
Well, I too left out that T, and had to use Google to find out how many Ls there are in Phillips. Look at my posts, and you'll see that just about every one has been edited after posting. That's because every one seems to have typos and misspellings when I look it over after posting. Zeesh, when I was young I could type.
In the three sentences above, I just now fixed five such errors. So don't claim the championship just yet. There are several challengers.
Radio
06-18-2016, 01:01 PM
Then there's Philips Medical and Philips Arena.
It just depends on which Philips/Phillips you're talking about.
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