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Old 12-30-2013, 08:16 AM   #1
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Hello everyone. DW and I are retired AF and looking to get into amateur radio for fun and to learn something new.

Worked HF as a pilot on long overseas flights and have a grounding in electronics though I have not used it much since college.

To anyone who patched a MARS call home for us; THANK YOU!
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:44 AM   #2
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Welcome aboard, both in ORR and in ham radio. I think you'll like both.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:28 AM   #3
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Welcome aboard!
You'll find the folks here very helpful, so post your questions and pictures.
Please let us know your name, ham call sign and location. If you don't have a call sign, I'm sure we can point you in the right direction for license study and sample quizzes.

73 and good luck!
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:42 PM   #4
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Herk is an old friend of mine who moderates over on ForestRiverForums.com which was started by the same folks who helped start ORR.net.

Poke around Herk and see what interests you, and we'll get you started in the right direction.

And welcome aboard.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:30 PM   #5
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Welcome aboard Herk. The guys on here are awesome. There is a LOT of knowledge between all the folks here. I know they sure have helped me out at times.
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:43 AM   #6
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Welcome abord... To help you get licenesed there are two groups of license guides... I kind of like the first but I need to qualify that by saying I do hold a certificate in Electronics (may be old and yellowed but it's genuine).

ARRL licensing guides... www.arrl.org and click on store These, per some others, are best for folks with a good background in electronics,, They not only give you the questions and answers but explain how to arrive at the answers,, A very good course in my opinion.... When I upgraded to extra the combination of these guides and a human teacher made it fast and easy.. I did fail to complete the classes (Schedule conflict) but I passed the test before I left (missed 2 questions).

Gorden West books.... Now I used this type of book when in college for 1/2 of one class.. He gives you the questions and the answers and occasionally a "Trick" (mnemonic) to help you remember the answer.. But he does not explain many of the answers. When I tried it for the Extra class license it took me about half an hour of study to hit a wall I could not get past.

As I tell folks, the ARRL guide smashed the wall and the Teacher,,,, Ground up the rubble, mixed in a bit of a well known powder and water and poured it back out as nice smooth pavement.

I'm told these are better for folks who do NOT have a good grounding in electronics.

http://twit.tv/hn Go to that URL long about 9pm MOST Wed's (Jan 1 may be an exception) and click on WATCH LIVE. There is also an IRC channel (Change hn to irc in a second window).
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:27 AM   #7
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Both girls and I used the ARRL books. No one has a background in electronics. We did just fine. I have not even seen Gordon West books so I cannot make any comments there.

I am also a big fan of online practice testing. There are many different ones out there, so just find one you are comfortable with. Take the tests until you are consistently scoring in the 80's or higher and then you are good to go.

http://aa9pw.com/radio/

Good Luck and keep us posted.
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The Tech license question pool will change July 1, 2014. Find a local club and see if anyone has a current license manual that you can borrow or purchase from them. I assist a certified ARRL license instructor and we do 3 or 4 classes a year, a couple Tech classes a General class or two and a class for Amateur Extra. Sessions are usually 3 consecutive Saturdays except for the Extra class which may be as long as 8 weeks. You might also check the ARRL web site for any classes in your area. Some clubs have HAM CRAMS which are usually one session. I am also a VE and find that a manual is essential to learn properly. People in the classes that do not have a manual to study in their spare time usually do not pass the exam. Also, there are a number of online web sites that do practice exams which are actual exam questions. We find that the http://aa9pw.com web site is one of the best. Every time you take a test it will be different and it also changes the order of the answers which it helps to get you to understand the questions.

Welcome to the hobby, you can get enjoyment from the many aspects of the hobby and spend as little or as much of your money that you want and get the desired result.
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Every time you take a test it will be different and it also changes the order of the answers which ... helps ... you to understand the questions.
Do you really think so? I believe that any study method that focuses on the particular questions can lead only to rote memorization and very seldom to any understanding at all.

To learn any subject, one must study that subject. Learning to pick out from a short list an answer one has seen before is not remotely similar to studying the subject.
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Do you really think so? I believe that any study method that focuses on the particular questions can lead only to rote memorization and very seldom to any understanding at all.

To learn any subject, one must study that subject. Learning to pick out from a short list an answer one has seen before is not remotely similar to studying the subject.
The old school way of getting a ham license, back when I got mine, was to have the applicant more or less fully equipped to be a functioning radio operator the day he passed the tests. If you passed the tests, then you had "arrived" and were certified "Competent."

Now days the test and license philosophy is "granting permission to learn further." Most of what a new ham actually "learns", that is the usable knowledge and skills that stick with you, he will acquire after he is licensed, not before. If you pass the test, you are "getting started" and are certified "not an idiot"

Learn all you can, but memorizing the questions, passing the tests and jumping in and just get started is the way it's done now.

And if you need help there are clubs, forums, books, the guy down the street, all sorts of resources.
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