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Old 09-27-2014, 08:07 AM   #11
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I have operated an ALS-500 amp generally running about 400 watts for close to 20 years in an older 93 Dodge Cummins Diesel pickup with a triple mag mount on top of the cab and mfj hamsticks. The amp makes a big difference in maintaining regular contact with a group of guys I talk with frequently. A lot of the time they would hardly hear me with 100 watts, particularly on 75M, since the ant is so inefficient. I will get it worked out sooner or later, but just thought I would ask on here just in case someone had been there done that. CB radio would be new to me; I have been a ham since 1960, right after they took the 11 meter band from us. Thanks for all the feed back.
Yeah you are at a big disadvantage mobile the guys at home have workable setup. A 128' simple dipole in the trees at the house as opposed to a stick on the roof is just is not fair. I have never stopped to figure out the ERP of a mobile antenna but I'it can't be no more than a hand full watts mobile. I never had much luck with the sticks the only ones that worked OK for me were 10 meters. I use a LiLTarheel with a long whip back by the tail gate on my pickup.
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Old 09-27-2014, 09:01 AM   #12
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First: Though Radios were not as sofisicated 50 years ago 1,000 watts is still 1,000 watts.
But cars, 50 years ago, had simple mechanical analog computers, not todays modern digital electronic jobs and the mechanical computers of 50 years ago (Spark advance system, carb, ect) were impervious to RFI since they were not electronic, They could, however, cause RFI. (interference to the radio).

Though 100' of heavy duty grounding strap sounds good, There are two schools of thought.

ON Ham Nation: Bob Heil likes single point grounding , he uses outlet adapters to "Lift" the ground pin on his transmitters so the only ground is via the coax to the tower ground.

George Thomas uses a big heavy ground bus and multiple Straps a-la DX Enginering.

As to who is right and who is wrong..... The answer is actually both, under different conditions. I have to admit there are times when I wonder why the 3rd pin on the outlet.. IE: Laptop computers with all plastic housed bricks and so on, There is no direct connecting between what I'm touching and anything outside of the box.
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Old 09-27-2014, 04:20 PM   #13
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True. 1000 watts is still 1000 watts. I have a AL-1500 sitting 2 feet from this computer and 15 feet from a large TV. There is never a ripple on the TV or any trash on my computer. My old Henry from 40 years ago would take a TV a block away off the air and talk on the church organ 2 blocks away. RFI suppression in todays electronics is superb and unwanted harmonics are almost a thing of the past. My RV is practically all processor controlled. Lights, climate control, entertainment, navigation, leveling, ant the engine and transmission. Yet I have never have had any issues with interference from my ham equipment and I routinely run 500 watts on SSB. (I know. The Tarheel is rated for 200) My only attempt at RFI control is that the antenna is mounted on the rear ladder and the ladder has a ground strap going to the frame and I have the radio and amp grounded directly to the frame. I always check with my neighbors to make sure that I'm not bothering their electronics and so far, nary a complaint. Most of the hams that I have ran across in rv parks traveling around the country, are very careful not to interfere with their neighbors and as a result, most rv park owners are very tolerant of our antennas, up to a point. They get a little testy about long wires running thru the trees, but usually allow moderate sized ground planes and beams.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:01 PM   #14
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Several comments:
First: Though Radios were not as sofisicated 50 years ago 1,000 watts is still 1,000 watts.
But cars, 50 years ago, had simple mechanical analog computers, not todays modern digital electronic jobs and the mechanical computers of 50 years ago (Spark advance system, carb, ect) were impervious to RFI since they were not electronic, They could, however, cause RFI. (interference to the radio).

Though 100' of heavy duty grounding strap sounds good, There are two schools of thought.

ON Ham Nation: Bob Heil likes single point grounding , he uses outlet adapters to "Lift" the ground pin on his transmitters so the only ground is via the coax to the tower ground.

George Thomas uses a big heavy ground bus and multiple Straps a-la DX Enginering.

As to who is right and who is wrong..... The answer is actually both, under different conditions. I have to admit there are times when I wonder why the 3rd pin on the outlet.. IE: Laptop computers with all plastic housed bricks and so on, There is no direct connecting between what I'm touching and anything outside of the box.
With the ground pin it's all about line noise and the computer if there is a sub panel involved it has a floating neutral so a ground pin is needed. Me I believe in single point grounds for my home ham gear and tower every thing is linked together including the house power.
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Old 09-28-2014, 12:23 PM   #15
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Not a lot of chance in a pile up no problem hearing a big station with a big beam but a lot of problem hearing my little pw station on a 100 watts and a dipole with 15 others calling some times an amp is the only way to get a rare one. The Falcon radar units will not stop a car they are designed to defeat radar detectors they lock speed and stop transmitting. Data from a on board engine computer is read only there is no external input. On Star and your cell phone do have GPS TX data you can turn that off on the phone to 911 only that's up to you.
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With the ground pin it's all about line noise and the computer if there is a sub panel involved it has a floating neutral so a ground pin is needed. Me I believe in single point grounds for my home ham gear and tower every thing is linked together including the house power.
Perhaps I was not clear enough on the grounding /ground pin.

I only presented two viewpoints, I am not supporting either one. Only presenting, I sit firmly atop the fence on this one.

As for the floating neutral in the sub panel..... NO, it does not float, it is bonded to ground... You just can not see the bond looking, as you are, at the sub panel.

Why is this,, Think about what "SUB" means, (it means it is off the MAIN panel and that is where they did the bonding of course)

However..... IT MIGHT FLOAT (in an RV) if you are running off the generator or inverter.
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Old 09-28-2014, 06:37 PM   #17
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Perhaps I was not clear enough on the grounding /ground pin.

I only presented two viewpoints, I am not supporting either one. Only presenting, I sit firmly atop the fence on this one.

As for the floating neutral in the sub panel..... NO, it does not float, it is bonded to ground... You just can not see the bond looking, as you are, at the sub panel.

Why is this,, Think about what "SUB" means, (it means it is off the MAIN panel and that is where they did the bonding of course)

However..... IT MIGHT FLOAT (in an RV) if you are running off the generator or inverter.
In a sub panel (rv's) or any panel behind a main breaker the neutral is not bonded to the ground. The lugs are not bonded to the panel the ground is. Sub panels require a ground, a neutral and a hot one good reason for this is camp ground wiring if the hot and neutral are reversed you could end up with a hot frame not a good thing chances are it would trip the breaker but suppose the ground is not good? At the main panel yes indeed the two are bonded together but that all changes with a sub panel this is why main panels have 4 lugs two hot one ground and one neutral if it is a main there is a bonding screw that is installed to bond the neutral to the ground in a sub panel the neutral is insolated from the ground.
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Old 09-28-2014, 06:47 PM   #18
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I have used Falcon radar's they will not stop any car. In the future maybe but not likely it would require too much power.
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Old 09-28-2014, 07:18 PM   #19
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The State Police here has a Falcon radar gun that is equipped with a vehicle shut down mode that selectively shuts down the electronics of the vehicle they are in pursuit of.
Unfortunately, if they press the trigger, there is no way to keep the RF from shutting down their own vehicle.
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I have used Falcon radar's they will not stop any car. In the future maybe but not likely it would require too much power.
Oh, c'mon, don't bother him with reality. The poor fish may actually believe that nonsense about shutting down a car.
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Well Carl, I guess in your own little world, your rose colored glasses are on pretty tight.
In fact the PA State Police has already experimented with this technology.
The legality is that if it causes someone to wreck, they are liable, especially if they cannot control it and it causes someones car to wreck that has not committed a crime.
It is much easier to just call On Star and have them disable the engine.
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