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n3crs
06-18-2008, 06:43 AM
I am looking to buy a generator to use with my travel trailer. I have narrowed it down to a Honda eu3000 or the Yamaha EF3000isE/B. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions. The DB ratings are very close although the Honda is a little quieter. I am not sure it will be noticable. I like the remote start option for the Yamaha. I like the Honda because it is lighter but the Yamaha comes with wheels. It appears that the Honda is a little less expensive. Help?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.

Thanks,

n3crs

Andy N1ORK
06-18-2008, 06:57 AM
Scott,
I tried to use a Honda EU1000 at Field Day a couple of years back. The HF noise was terrible (DC Generator / AC Inverter). I tried to suppress it with a coil of the AC extention wire and RF beads, but no help. I understand that the newer units have been cleaned up, but I would check the specifications and try one out for RFI first.
73
Andy

wa8yxm
06-18-2008, 07:34 AM
While I've never run radios off either one of them I have listened to them and the Yahama is very quite.. One or two DB's is less difference than you can hear.

I have been told, but have not been able to verify, that Yahama uses ball bearings and Honda Sleeve bearings, at least on the 1000 and 2000 models... Don't know about the 3000s I also like that the Yahama unit is not red.... You wonder what color has to do with it.. Simple... There are those who walk along and see an enclosed generator dressed in RED and they think "Oh, those Honda generators are valuable. I can pawn that for lots of drug money" but when they see a yellow one.. They do not get so excited. And thus yellow generators stick around longer.

w7wv
06-18-2008, 08:51 AM
Scott,
I tried to use a Honda EU1000 at Field Day a couple of years back. The HF noise was terrible (DC Generator / AC Inverter). I tried to suppress it with a coil of the AC extention wire and RF beads, but no help. I understand that the newer units have been cleaned up, but I would check the specifications and try one out for RFI first.
73
Andy

Are you sure that was the EU series? I ran my EU 2000 with a number of rigs a few years ago with no problems whatsoever?

To the OP. I have had many gensets over the years from Onan to Honda and Yamaha included. (Never buy anything powered by a Briggs and Stratton! if you have neighbors or want to talk)
For portable use I preferred the Hondas for reliability by far over the Yamahas.

n3crs
06-18-2008, 10:13 AM
I too am partial to Honda. I own an EG-3500 for the house and never had a problem with it but I am open to changing if it is worth it. Thanks for the feedback.

SCOTT

Andy N1ORK
06-18-2008, 02:18 PM
Ken,
I'm pretty sure it was the EU1000. Does Honda make another 1000 unit? Red, about 15lbs 1kwAC, 12vDC for charging. About 14"H x 12"W x 18"L. You could hook up 2 in parrallel if needed. Had to use another ACgen.
73
Andy

w7wv
06-18-2008, 06:17 PM
Yes, they made a 650 and a 1000 in what I call a contractor grade.
The EU means it had an inverter and should have been quiet noise wise.
I don't think they make the little ones like that anymore since the newer and much quieter EU series came out.
But on the other hand you said they could be paralleled and the older contractor style would not do that to the best of my knowledge.

N7OQ
06-19-2008, 03:08 AM
I have the Kipor 3000 really only 2800watts but it is quite a inverter generator and it only weighs 65 lbs will run the AC even at 6000 feet. It cost me $900 to the door but not sure you can buy that model now. The Honda is a first class generator my Brother-in-law has one and it has the wheel kit and remote start kit, both can be added later. As for the RF noise I here all you have to do is run a jumper from the -12 to ground and the noise will disappear. I really think it is hard to beat a Honda.

wa8yxm
06-19-2008, 06:56 AM
Just a thought about the noisy honda

Did you use the 12 volt terminals? DO NOT USE THESE they are not clean DC but rectified AC and they are basically worthless.

Would be better if they did not include them on the package. I might use 'em to power a lamp, but I'd not even use them to charge a battery.. I'd use a proper converter to do that.

Andy N1ORK
06-19-2008, 07:07 AM
No, we were using (powering off) the AC. It may have been a good idea to ground the -12vdc. The 12vdc is only used to charge a car battery (when not operating radio eq.)

w6pea
06-25-2008, 10:01 AM
In my RV I have an Onan 4000 watt unit. I am looking to get another Onan to put in the bed of my P/U, but with the price of fuel these days, the extra generator can wait, the only problem is it seems everything is made in China or Japan these days.

I know my radios were made in Japan...wish they would have been made here.
I really try not to buy anything that is not made in the United States anymore. :radio:

73 Pat
w6pea

wa8yxm
06-26-2008, 06:16 AM
I do not think grounding the 12 volt side would have helped and it's not that great for charging

Another thought is There are many companies that make "Contractor" grage generators which use Honda motors... The motor clearly says HONDA upon it But the beast is no Honda just the motor