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Radio
08-12-2009, 12:08 AM
Preface: For those who don't know, both my wife and I are unemployed and are looking for work. Had a teleconference/interview with a neat little company today, and here are my thoughts. Some of you will think I'm nuts. Others will get it, cuz they already know I'm nuts. :waggle:


Well, let's see what the job boards have today, hummm, yep same old same old. No I don't want to sell insurance. Don't want to work at home or for people from Nigeria. Crap.

I wonder what's cooking on Linked In. Click "jobs" 100 mile radius of Fayetteville. IT stuff. Computer stuff. Unix Admin. Blah blah....WAIT! A________D. Who are they? Ask Google. OK, that's who they are. What do they do? Crap...I got to learn all these new acronyms. I really need to get out of telecom though. Seven layoffs is plenty, thank you.

Oh, this is cool, they're into medical imaging. Neat!, That's exactly where I want to be, but what do they do? Oh...they just move stuff around...they're sort of a communication company for radiologists. They want an applications specialist. JIMMINY CRICKET! I can do this!

The stretch starts to burn in my thighs and calves. That's far enough. I'm ready. I have prepared for this moment for months. This isn't my first race. I've done this before and sometimes, I win. I'm warm enough now to loose the sweats and I toss them to my coach.

Enough research. They want a trainer who can be a field engineer, or the other way round, either way, I'm their guy. E-mail resume where? Oh, there, ok, cut and paste the cover letter, make a few edits for this job. Carefully select the right resume from an arsenal of about 15. Oh might as well add the reference sheet. Attach.

My feet are in the blocks. My body tenses. The pistol is raised.

One last check of everything, no point in making an *** of myself. I do love spellchecker. Click "Send"

BANG! Jeepers! My body leaps from the blocks. It amazes me every time how loud that pistol is! The track is moving beneath my feet. I sense the other runners, I can't see them, but I know they are there, all trying to take this prize from me.

OK, now we wait. Not exactly. Now we learn, who are these people, I need names, histories. Where did the CEO go to school? Where did the marketing guy learn to do his job? How many people work there? Hum...only 35? Oh that's cool!

Email: You have a conference call Tuesday 4 Aug 09 at 3:00.

This track is shorter than I am accustomed to. I can see the first hurdle approaching, it's hard to tell how high these things are because all of these races are a bit different.

I have to get out my notes about everything I have tried to teach myself about medical imaging. What EXACTLY do these people do....oh I see, every thing is virtualized, all the records, images everything....radiology without boundary of time and space. That's so neat.

I am focused on the hurdle. Focus. Think. How do I out do my unseen competitors...I think I can clear this hurdle

OK, today is the day. 4 Aug 09. I'm ready. What's in the email?

The hurdle just up and moved! It just moved! What is that all about? My focus is totally shot and I nearly lose my balance and fall flat on my face. I have to get that focus back or I will lose this thing for sure and in this race, the prize is too important. Not just to win, but to compete anew in a whole new league.

Great, they have a scheduling conflict. The interview/conference has been moved to 11 Aug 09. That really tears me out of the frame. For about an hour. Then I realize what a blessing this is. Many candidates will not tolerate this sort of thing. The yuppie crowd. The Entitled Generation candidate. But I have been here before. I have another week to research. I will be more prepared than before.

Moving a hurdle can be a bit unsettling. I can’t see the other competitors, but I sense many of them have fallen away not because of the hurdle, but simply because it moved. Some will throw up their hands in despair, others will consider this race “poorly run” and walk away. Not me. I am a patient runner. I adapt. I out maneuver. I outlast and overcome.

OK, so I turn this thing to my favor. I go to the A_______D website and read every word. I go to LinkedIn and look for company information and peoples names. More Google. Who has the patents? Who does the sales and marketing?

OK, so I’m settled but not focused. Where is the hurdle? There it is now, I can see it. I feel the game returning, I’ll be ready as the track moves now at a steady rhythm under me. Focus. Focus. Excel. Go beyond what ordinary runners will endure

I have the entire history of the company. I have downloaded, printed and read all of their white papers. I Google the major players and become familiar with their biography. Oh, isn’t that sweet, one of the ladies that will be on the conference call just got married. Lovely picture on Facebook.

This is a new kind of hurdle…I have to learn to clear it. I’m running in a new kind of league here

Oh gee-whiz at all the new acronyms and buzz words. Break out the Wiki – PACS, OK that’s a picture archive and control system the military came up with. It has it’s limitations. DICOM – now that’s a set of protocols that control how hospitals transmit patient data along with images and stuff….I’m catching on. HL7? Hmm? That’s just a standards committee and I’m familiar with those. I can do this. I am so ready.

I see the hurdle clearly now. I have plotted my strategy. I’m going to clear this thing. Patience. Focus.

Today is 11 Aug 2009. The teleconference is in a few hours. The family knows I am not to be disturbed with other things going on in our lives. My wife is screening calls, none get through to me. My son is acting project manager for today at the renovation of his Grandmothers house, a project that consumes me. Daughter is at work. My wife leaves home to deliver some paperwork in her own job search. I am alone, in final preparation for the 3 o’clock conference. I’m ready. At this same time, in multiple places, good friends invoke the Devine at my pre-arranged request.

This is it. It’s here. Lunge, leap, stretch, reach. Outlast, outmaneuver, excel. This part of the race always astounds me. The inner peace and silence as my body begins to leave the ground. I have this hurdle, I own it, it’s mine as if it were made for me.

At 2:48 pm I have an email. They have a problem with their conference call equipment. They can’t call out, I can’t call in. They want a good phone number. I email them back. Time goes by. Still no call. Dig up the web page call the main number and ask for my interviewer. Get transferred to HR. My interviewer is hung up with a neurosurgeon who’s having a problem. That’s fine, it’s her job to take care of her customers. It occurred to me if any of my competitors were this aggressive and patient.

Hmm…this hurdle is a little wobbly. Cool. Some runners will freak out at that. I won’t.

We have everyone together now and we start. I get a brief history of the company that I am already familiar with. I chime into the conversation and add a few points that only a candidate that has done his research would know. Then came the questions that I knew were coming and prepared for. “How will your background benefit us?” and “Give us an example of how you resolved a conflict with a customer?” This is where the practice comes in. Perfecting the interview. Being ready. Going beyond and excelling above the other candidates.
I watch the hurdle pass beneath me. I still am amazed at whatever Force it is that comes over me right when I need it. The peace and grace and silence that accompanies me across the hurdle remains. The track rises up to gently meet my foot. Impact. I am over the hurdle.

I am advised that I have been invited to the next round of interviews, one on one, face to face with the hiring managers and my direct report, should I be hired. That interview will be scheduled as soon as convenient for all the parties involved.

I’m clear of the first hurdle. Another looms just ahead but still not visible to me. More hurdles remain. I sense the number of my fellow competitors has diminished greatly. Now I’m playing with the big boys. The ones that prepare, discipline practice and research every step of this race we are all running. Good luck guys, but I think I’m going to win this one.

w6pea
08-12-2009, 01:14 AM
Good Luck....You know you will get the job. :worthy:

Andy N1ORK
08-12-2009, 06:21 AM
Good Luck Wade! We all wish you the best and we're all pulling for you. Which telecom did you work for? I was with AT&T for 38 years before I took a voluntary 'layoff'. And I'm glad I did (saw the writing on the wall).
73
Andy - n1ork
P.S. I still think you ought to try writing a book or something, great story!

One Country Boy
08-12-2009, 09:20 AM
Love the race story Wade. Andy said it best for all of us. About all I can say is "ditto".

I'll add one thing, the "maturity" is very obvious and that has to be a plus.

Jim

W4LWZ
08-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Good luck Wade. I spent42 years in the medical imaging business, and its a great industry.

Larry

aintgotnun
08-12-2009, 05:48 PM
yeah, you're nuts :whistle:












GET'M WADE!!

KF5BET
08-12-2009, 09:41 PM
Keep those running shoes hot Wade....Got our fingers crossed for you (and will say a prayer too!).

Keep us posted.

Galen

One Country Boy
08-12-2009, 10:23 PM
Good luck Wade. I spent42 years in the medical imaging business, and its a great industry.

Larry

Hi Larry,

Welcome to ORR. Good to have you onboard. I'm up near Panama City. Nice to see another Floridian here.

Jim

Radio
08-17-2009, 08:15 PM
I just got a call from a head hunter who wants a Test Engineer for fiber optic systems. Well, test engineering is what I'm all about, and did fiber optics in particular for 3 1/2 years. So that me, I guess. Put a package together and emailed it to him a little while ago.

BANG! Jeepers!

I'm off and running again!

TXiceman
08-17-2009, 08:28 PM
Sure hope you find something soon. My daughter has been looking for 3 months.

Something I learned 2 years ago when searching for a job.....
The "head hunters" or recruiting firms really do not do a good job of promoting your individual resume. They are just trying to fill a job and earn a fee.

Your best leads will come from networking. Contact people you know in your filed and also the ones you know outside of it but are in contact with it.

If you have a networking group in your area, go and meet people.

The newspaper and Monster ads are usually screened by some one in HR that is looking for a few key words in a resume. If the key word are not there, yours is bypassed. You need an inside contact to get your resume in front of the right people.

Best of luck hunting...

Ken

Radio
08-17-2009, 09:15 PM
Sure hope you find something soon. My daughter has been looking for 3 months.

Something I learned 2 years ago when searching for a job.....
The "head hunters" or recruiting firms really do not do a good job of promoting your individual resume. They are just trying to fill a job and earn a fee.

Your best leads will come from networking. Contact people you know in your filed and also the ones you know outside of it but are in contact with it.

If you have a networking group in your area, go and meet people.

The newspaper and Monster ads are usually screened by some one in HR that is looking for a few key words in a resume. If the key word are not there, yours is bypassed. You need an inside contact to get your resume in front of the right people.

Best of luck hunting...

Ken

Thanks for the best wishes. This is major layoff number seven, so I've been around the Block a time or two (or seven) The only thing that's changed since the last one are the presence of LinkedIn and Facebook, which makes networking a whole lot easier.

I have a splendid networking groups and an excellent Career coach in JobSeekers of Peachtree City. JobSeeker groups are forming all over the country, some better than others.

And I got my last three jobs by networking because I know that 80 - 90% of openings are not advertised in anyway.

But when a headhunter, who truly is only interested in earning his fee, throws something in your lap you might as well run with it, especially since about 20 people who work there are former colleagues of mine.

We'll see what happens.

wa8yxm
08-18-2009, 09:16 AM
Well, if you ever change your mind re: INsurance.. Call me.

(This is mostly joking since I'm not licensed in your state and thus can not "Sign you up" to sell there.. Of course you could move to Michigan, where the economy has gone to a little town just South West of Pickney MI.. Right on Patterson Lake Rd, at the Dam site.

TXiceman
08-21-2009, 01:31 PM
You don't want to sit around too long....you might get to where you like it!

Ken

Radio
08-22-2009, 09:53 PM
You don't want to sit around too long....you might get to where you like it!

Ken

Well, a few updates...

First, I haven't worked this hard in a long time. Due to storms, the insurance co. put a new roof on my house and I supervised that. Cleaned out the basement, made a real, usable, man cave down there (about a weeks worth of work) had a butt-kicking yard sale (THAT is a lot of work if done right!)

Then, the same storm tore up the roof on my Mom's house, with interior water damage, so that's been about 3 weeks of renovations I had to supervise. In short, I have to get a job so I can get some rest, soon!

But the little radiology company found someone else. That figures, since I know nothing about radiology. However, I have another face to face interview Wednesday with a company that makes all kinds of stuff for the cable TV market so I may have better luck there.

But today I got to "sit around" and just do stuff I wanted to do. Still stayed pretty busy. First time in a month at least. It was nice, and I could really get used to it!

Radio
08-25-2009, 11:23 AM
Update!

I have a job interview with a pretty good company that could provide that final 13 year uninterrupted ride to retirement. For those of you who understand Divine Appointments, please mark your calendars for tomorrow, Wednesday August 25 at 9:30 am.

And now I have to get a hair cut!

One Country Boy
08-28-2009, 10:48 AM
Update!

I have a job interview with a pretty good company that could provide that final 13 year uninterrupted ride to retirement. For those of you who understand Divine Appointments, please mark your calendars for tomorrow, Wednesday August 25 at 9:30 am.

And now I have to get a hair cut!

Waiting for an update..... Again, good luck to you.

Jim

Radio
08-28-2009, 10:00 PM
In short...I interviewed with two guys. The first guy runs a database support shop and that's not my cup of tea, so he sends me to another building to interview with their system integration and build shop.

Instead I get some guy who is "manager, compression customer support" and while eating a banana :banana2: during the whole process, proceeded to give me the most vicious and humiliating technical interview of my entire career.

I walked out of there with all my major organs in a large burlap bag. :bag:

One Country Boy
08-29-2009, 08:27 AM
Instead I get some guy who is "manager, compression customer support" and while eating a banana :banana2: during the whole process, proceeded to give me the most vicious and humiliating technical interview of my entire career.

I walked out of there with all my major organs in a large burlap bag. :bag:

He must have thought he was important !!! Geeze !!!

TXiceman
08-29-2009, 03:24 PM
In short...I interviewed with two guys. The first guy runs a database support shop and that's not my cup of tea, so he sends me to another building to interview with their system integration and build shop.

Instead I get some guy who is "manager, compression customer support" and while eating a banana :banana2: during the whole process, proceeded to give me the most vicious and humiliating technical interview of my entire career.

I walked out of there with all my major organs in a large burlap bag. :bag:

Some people are overly impressed with their own perceived importance.....:2cents:

Ken

One Country Boy
08-31-2009, 09:27 AM
Some people are overly impressed with their own perceived importance.....:2cents:

Ken

Many of them Ken. :2cents:

Radio
08-31-2009, 08:54 PM
I have a phone interview with an HR lady at a company I have been trying to get into for 10 years on Wednesday. I'm sure I'll get past that, but then I have to refresh myself on everything I have forgotten about optical communications.

Still trying to get into medical equipment as well.

Trying to find a job in this market is a full time job.