[ke0me]

However, I have seen many times where turning yellow means I better hurry up and get thru thru the light, even when they can easily stop.

They usually end up completing their mad dash on RED.

so, if I'm trying to make a left turn in front of those idiots, I better double check if the oncoming driver is trying to make the light or will stop let me turn left while it's still yellow.

otherwise, I either crash into them or start my left turn on the red light after waiting for the idiot to roar thru.

so, I usually just stay back at the wide white line and wait for clear traffic or the next left turn lite.

better safe than sorry.